Alphabet Soars While Meta Sinks

In this podcast, Motley Fool contributors Tyler Crowe, Matt Frankel, and Jon Quast discuss:

• Meta's ambitious spending plan sending the stock down.
• Microsoft's and Alphabet's earnings and outlooks getting mixed reviews.
• One year without Brian Niccol at Chipotle.
• One year with Brian Niccol at Starbucks.

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A full transcript is below.

This podcast was recorded on Oct. 30, 2025.

Tyler Crowe: 42.8% of the magnificent seven earnings were in the past 24 hours, so you know we're covering it. This is Motley Fool Money. Welcome, Motley Fool Money. I'm Tyler Crowe, and today I'm joined by longtime Fool contributors, Matt Frankel and Jon Quast. We are neck deep in earnings this week. About 875 companies are reporting in this week alone, and we're not going to get to all of them this week, but we did want a zero and a few. We'll hit restaurant earnings from Chipotle and Starbucks, maybe a little bit of who's doing best with Brian Niccol or without, and three of the MAG seven stocks that reported yesterday, Microsoft, Alphabet, and we'll kick it off with Meta. Now, since the three of the seven reported today, we divvied up the assignments. Each of us is going to give our knee jerk reactions to what we saw for each quarter. We're going to start with Meta because Jon, considering the market's reactions, I think we need to start here. The stock's down about 10% as we're taping. Looking through the numbers, they were all fine, but what was it either in the earnings or the commentary that has everyone so bearish, I guess you could say, compared to Alphabet and Microsoft?

Jon Quast: Tyler, I think that the commentary was what was more surprising. I think we should talk about surprises because when you see a market reaction of this magnitude, clearly, investors didn't expect something. What exactly was it? Investors, I think, are reacting to how much Meta said it's going to spend on AI in the next year, or in 2026. Now, investors knew that Meta was going to spend money and that expenses were going to go up. I don't think that, that is a surprise. I think the surprise or what spooked them is the magnitude of what we're talking about. Mark Zuckerberg basically said that he would rather overshoot when it comes to spending on AI than undershoot. If you look at their capital expenditures for 2025, obviously, not all of it is AI, but a large percentage of it is. We're going to spend around 70 billion this year compared to 39 billion in 2024. That's an 80% year-over-year increase as it builds data centers, buys GPUs. But in 2026, Meta says it plans to increase spending by, "Notably larger amount." Essentially, the company is saying it doesn't have enough computing capacity to do what it wants to do in AI. Whether that's improving the core advertising business or building out Meta superintelligence labs. It would rather aggressively overbuild now its compute than underbuild. It doesn't think it's going to overbuild. It thinks it's going to use it all, but worst case scenario, it's going to overbuild and maybe wait for its business to catch up or maybe provide cloud services to other companies. I think that was surprising. But the fact that Meta is spending as much as it is, and it's still not enough, that's surprising, and that is what the market is reacting to.

Tyler Crowe: Meta's plans were certainly the largest of the three, or at least they didn't give numbers, but certainly sound the most aggressive of the three magnificent seven companies, and we're going to get to Microsoft and Alphabet right after the break.

Matt, the results for Microsoft were better than Metas, you could say, or at least the commentary, was it? But the stock's still down about 2.7% as we're taping which if I'm counting right for Microsoft, that's about $100 billion in market cap or maybe a few data centers here or there. For the slightly down revision or slightly bearish sentiment if you will for the earnings quarter, was it the results not meeting expectation? What was the outlook? Which one was it?

Matt Frankel: Well, it wasn't the earnings results. Microsoft beat expectations on both the top and bottom line, and pretty handily, Cloud revenue from the Azure business soared by 40%. All the other business segments delivered revenue that was well ahead of expectations. But there were a few negative points, and just like with Meta, it was spending. It was the big one. Essentially, the data center and infrastructure that's needed to keep up with AI demand, it needs money. At the time of the second quarter earnings report, Microsoft told investors they were going to spend about $30 billion during the third quarter. They spent just under 35 billion. The company specifically said that CapEx in 2026 is going to be significantly higher than it is in 2025. That seems to be what's dragging the stock down, but a really interesting note, and I don't want to spoil too much about your Alphabet discussion is that all three of these companies increase their spending or they're spending guidance. But investors are reacting to each one of them in a different way. To Jon's discussion on Meta, they have a history of what I would call questionable spending especially on Mark Zuckerberg's metaverse ambitions. But investors seem a little bit less concerned about the ROI that they're going to get from Microsoft spending. It also didn't help that there was a massive Azure outage that was affecting a lot of websites while the earnings report was being released. This is like if Amazon had released its earnings during that big AWS outage a week ago. As we saw then, that should be completely forgotten by investors within a few days, but it certainly came at an inopportune moment. But Microsoft quarter looks good. It's just whether or not the hundreds of billions or over 100 billion in annualized spending is going to turn into actual money in investors pockets.

Tyler Crowe: Returns on money spent seems to be a little bit more in the forefront because on Microsoft's conference call, I did remember mentions of, Hey, we're going to have some of the best ROI, which I think might be the first time I've heard that when it comes to AI spending. Also, at the same time, we saved the best for last, and I covered Alphabet here, which is actually up 4% at the time we're taping. The numbers all looked great, pretty much across the board. 45% year-over-year growth for a 3 trillion market cap company is absurd. It's not just me? How does a company that large grow this fast? It's mind boggling. Just about every part of the business performed well, which I think can come as a surprise since, we've been talking about OpenAI, ChatGPT, and all these other AI query tools that were supposed to be the death of Google search, but Google Ads are still jugging along just fine. YouTube is strong, and it's getting adoption with Gemini, as well. All the things seem to be working in some way. They discussed Wemo, but Wemo isn't really a revenue or returns thing yet. I think it's funny to read the headlines about Google being an AI winner over the past 24 hours, when it seems like I think we all read so many thought pieces on why it was going to be an AI loser like what? Six months ago? We in the market tend to change our mind pretty quickly here.

Also, Alphabet's increase in CapEx spending was, I would say, the most measured of the three, going from about 85 billion for the whole year to somewhere in the range of 91-93 billion of the three. It's still a lot, but not certainly the jumps that we're seeing with the other ones. Maybe the market's becoming a fan of discipline and saying true to initial forecasts. To sum up all three of them, I'd love to see if you guys agree or thoughts on this as well. These are my two big thoughts about Alphabet's quarter and the MAG 7 in general. Number 1, was optionality, and I think this applies to Microsoft a little bit as well. But there's going to be some value in a company's optionality when it comes to AI. Some of the biggest winners from the Internet age came years after the Internet frenzy because the business models didn't materialize. I think AI will follow a similar path, and having those options to pivot the business, whether it be, the AI tools themselves or just providing the compute and storage and inference for everyone else to build their models on them. That's going to be valuable for somebody like Google and Microsoft. The last thing we'll consider here is the expectations games. I said six months ago, they were the loser of AI but now they're looking really well. For over a year, Alphabet has traded at the lowest multiple of the MAG 7 companies. We were talking 16 times earnings back in April for them. Outperforming expectations at 16 times earnings is much easier than 40 times earnings.

Jon Quast: In fairness Tyler, the Meta expectations are quite down, and so it is now the cheapest of these three that we just talked about. Just for what it's worth.

Tyler Crowe: Beating low expectations is one of the best things you can do. We're going to go for a quick break, and then we're going to talk about earnings on the restaurant side of things. AI may be getting much of the attention today. Deservedly so. We just talked about hundreds of billions of dollars in CapEX spending. But loads of companies reported today, and we elected to go with restaurant stocks because this quarter represents a full year for Brian Niccol at Starbucks and because Chipotle, well, let's just say they might be missing Brian Niccol right now. Shares of Chipotle Mexican Grill are down about 16% as we record. Jon, you took a look over the report and the commentary. Should Chipotle's board be standing outside of Niccol's office with a Boombox, like Lloyd Dobler and say anything?

Tyler Crowe: Just being like, Come back to us, please.

Jon Quast: That would be entertaining. Look, Chipotle is essentially a victim now of Niccol's success when he was at the company. This is a complicated story to unpack. Chipotle's revenue, its sales are still up, both on an absolute basis because it opened new restaurants, but also on the same store basis, barely 0.3%, but they're still up. But the profit margins are what are coming down in particular the restaurant level operating margin. This is a metric that Chipotle breaks out. Down to 24.5%, that's a decent decrease year-over-year. But you look it peaked back in the second quarter of 2024. Just over a year ago, right before Niccol left the company, it was almost at 30% up at 29%. If you look at the discrepancy from where the restaurant level margin is now versus where it was just five quarters ago, you're talking about a difference of over 100 million per quarter in profit just based on that margin difference. It's interesting. The pricing still came up barely for the quarter. Transactions were down a little bit, and I think this is a noteworthy trend because back in mid 2024, consumers and analysts started pushing back on Chipotle's pricing. Whether it's real or just imagined, that value perception seemed to have shifted in the market. People don't feel like it's a good value and it seems like that's coming out here. Maybe those margins are coming back down, transactions are stalling. Look, management mentioned value 14 times in this conference call, in the prepared remarks. They mentioned it about 25 times in all when they were answering the questions from the analysts. Clearly, pricing is still this issue that is creating a little bit of headwind resistance. Those portions may be coming up relative to the pricing, but margins are getting hit. I think they soared so much under Niccol that was goo but they hit a ceiling, and now they're coming back down, and I think that's the difference in Chipotle stock right now.

Matt Frankel: I would agree with that. It's not a brand that you would think. Everyone expects to pay five times for a Starbucks coffee that you would at like a gas station. But that's not necessarily true of Chipotle's products, so it does seem like they're getting a lot of pushback on their food prices.

Tyler Crowe: Jon tying to our AI conversation ever so slightly in the idea of expectations. Obviously, there's based on management's commentary on value, really trying to, say, Hey, we're worth it, let's pivot that to the stock. It is based on where it's trading today with a 16% decline and where management thinks it's going to go? Are we at a good point of expectations for the stock for better performance?

Jon Quast: It's one of the better moments that it's ever had. It's the second cheapest price to earnings valuation that it's had in an entire decade. Cheaper even than the COVID-19 pandemic stock crash. The only time it was cheaper in the last decade was when it had that E. coli scare, and the stock price came way down then. It's under 30 times earnings right now. I wouldn't necessarily call it cheap on an absolute basis, still at 29 times earnings. But for Chipotle, that's quite cheap comparatively. Look, if it can find ways to say, Hey, this is who we are. We do offer good value, assuming that management commentary there is accurate that, Hey, this is a good value. If they can communicate that, get those transaction trends, start going in the right direction again, get those profit margin numbers coming back up again, then this is a good place that it can outperform from. But these margins, personally, I think that they're a little bit more what we should expect with Chipotle.

Tyler Crowe: Now onto Brian Niccol current job as the CEO of Starbucks. The numbers were fine. Matt, you looked into a little bit more, and you mentioned in our preshow that there were some really interesting points in this quarter. Tell us what those interesting points were.

Matt Frankel: First of all, fine is good when the last two years have been bad. That's the first thing I would mention right off the bat. But you're right that this was an interesting quarter. For one thing, it does feel odd to celebrate a quarter where same store sales grew by 1% year-over-year. That's roughly what Chipotle did and Jon saying how bad it was. The company had 107 net store closures during the quarter, for a company that's been growing like a weed since the 90s. But there's more to the story. For one thing, we're now a year into Niccol's back to Starbucks plan. Let's call it some missteps by previous leadership. This is Starbucks saying the first same store sales increase that they've reported in seven quarters. Revenue is up by 5% overall, and really the between the lines is that the company's just doing a better job of introducing products that customers actually want rather than telling them what they want, which is what the former leadership was doing. For example, in the third quarter, they rolled out their protein cold foam, which has been a big success so far because that's something Americans actually want in their diets. They were needing more protein. The line of olive oil infused coffees they were telling us we should drink, which was, I think the last draw on their previous leadership. Not so much. No offense if you guys like the olive oil coffees. But Starbucks has largely also fixed its issues of the mobile order bottlenecks we were seeing and the long wait times. On that issue of store closures, it is important to note that Starbucks still aims to gradually increase its footprint over time, but the closures impacted stores that either weren't performing well or that didn't really fit into Niccol's vision, which is essentially the warm, cozy coffee shops that Starbucks operated 20 years ago. For example, a drive through only store doesn't really fit that vision, so those are an example of what closed. Starbucks isn't really giving an annual forecast, but they've scheduled an investor day in January, and we should get some answers. Before we go, I want to know what both your Starbucks orders are, minus now the protein cold foam, I have to tell you.

Tyler Crowe: It doesn't matter what coffee shop it is, Starbucks, or whatever, it's just a straight double espresso black.

Jon Quast: I'm actually heading there pretty soon. I'll probably get a Pike's Place black.

Tyler Crowe: There we go. Black coffee. I like the sound all this. Olive oil and proteins, I sound like a grumpy old man complaining about this stuff. But hey, you know what? I'm in my 40s now. I get to do that. We've liked to give stocks on our radar as part of our Thursday show, but, we've actually got another 870 companies to look at this week, so we're going to have to boogie on out of here. As always, people on the program may have interests in the stock they talk about, and the Motley Fool may have formal recommendations for, or against. Don't buy or sell stocks based solely on what you hear. All personal finance content follows Motley Fool editorial standards, and it's not approved by advertisers. Advertisements are sponsored content and provided for informational purposes only. To see our full advertising disclosure, please check out our show notes. Thanks for Producer Dan Boyd, for Matt, Jon and myself. Thanks for listening, and we'll chat again soon.

The Motley Fool has positions in and recommends Alphabet, Chipotle Mexican Grill, Meta Platforms, Microsoft, and Starbucks. The Motley Fool recommends the following options: long January 2026 $395 calls on Microsoft, short December 2025 $45 calls on Chipotle Mexican Grill, and short January 2026 $405 calls on Microsoft. The Motley Fool has a disclosure policy.